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January 13, 2005

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Scott: I agree with you about irony. Its effectiveness has been to some degree cheapened by certain tv comedians.

I think we're in agreement here, Dan. My phrasing may have been ambiguous, but when I was talking about bridging the gap, I meant it in the sense you speak of: an eventual acceptance after much toiling on the fringes.

You're right that an attempt to take experimental fiction to the mainstream would cancel its usefulness. I can think of no better example than irony, which was once used to such acute effect and now has been thoroughly co-opted and is brandished like a club.

I suppose that's the nature of experimentation--once it has succeeded, it loses much of its usefulness.

"I wanted them to see that there was no such thing as 'difficult' writing, just self-intimidated readers."

Thanks for verbalizing this! It's very true.

I wouldn't disagree vis-a-vis FW. It's predicated on a 19th century view of linguistics & thus lacks the vibrancy that characterizes Ulysses' best chapters. Fun to read aloud tho. My boys & I did 80 pages of it together back when they were in kindergarten. I wanted them to see that there was no such thing as "difficult" writing, just self-intimidated readers.

I think experimental writing needs a particular kind of reader: a reader who is (or will become) a writer that would be influenced by the experiment. Only with experiments influencing other writers will said experiment ever be anything other than a footnote in literary history. Stream-of-consciousness as employed in "Ulysses," for example, has been highly influential because it has been imitated and modified by other writers. Whatever term we use to describe the literary experimentation of "Finnegan's Wake," however, has been much less influential (and I would argue that FW is pretty close to being not much more than a footnote in literary history).

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